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Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism is a phrase associated with far left movements on the internet. It envisions an idealistic society where gender norms have been abolished to such an extent that there is little to no difference between gay and straight, and due to automation, luxury is available to all people. Some communities substitute "queer" for "gay" as it is perceived as more inclusive. Other communities replace "Communism" with more specific ideologies such as Anarchism. The term has inspired the creation of communism-themed memes and image macros.

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Fully Automated Luxury Communism, listed on Wikipedia under "Post-scarcity Economy,"[5] is a philosophy which first began appearing in works of science fiction and academic theory. On November 10th, 2014, a prominent believer in the philosophy, Aaron Bastani, uploaded an explainer of Fully Automated Luxury Communism to YouTube (shown below).

The Guardian[4] interviewed Bastani for an article on the philosophy published March 18th, 2015. It is unclear when "Gay" and "Space" began being attached to the ideology, though merchandise with "Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism" appeared on Amazon in the summer of 2015.[6]

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On November 5th 2016, Redditor BlackBeatles305 submitted the question "What is Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism?"[1] to /r/Communism101 where it received 231 upvotes. On December 4th, the same question was posted to /r/OutOfTheLoop [2] where it received 1821 votes. The top comment compared the concept to sci-fi author Iain M. Banks' utopian society known as "The Culture." On November 17th the Facebook page Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism[4] was created, posting communist-themed memes. As of April 3rd, 2017, the page has over 2,200 likes.

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A Wolf

So THAT's where Tim Curry went.

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MeansOfReproduction

It was a better meme when it was just FALC to be honest, now it smells too much of Reddit.

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gnolex

Post-scarcity is currently impossible, not merely because of technology but because of population problem. There are too many people currently living on Earth. You'd think that we can feed that many people but that's actually the least of our problems. We are going to dig and likely run out of several important metals within 20-80 years, including copper. At some point all we'll be able to do is recycle trash to get them back. But if you do the math, you'll find that there's simply not enough copper on Earth to support 8 billion people living at post-scarcity level. In fact, there's not enough copper on Earth to support 8 billion people living at the level of middle-class households in USA. And that's just copper. For post-scarcity to be possible, everything has to be available for everyone, in reasonable amounts, all the time.

For post-scarcity to be implemented, I roughly calculated that the global population would have to be reduced to well below 100 million and that's assuming we create a few densely-populated automated cities for people to live in. All that would require a complete global cooperation and I highly doubt we'll reach it within the next 200 years. While I don't discard the idea completely, I don't think it can be implemented in such a perfect way.

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I am AHO Right?

- Thanos, The Avengers: Infinity War, 2018

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spindash64

That’s not actually true. We currently grow more than enough food to feed everyone, we just don’t distribute it well enough to get it to those who need it.

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spindash64

We produce more than enough food right now to feed everyone on earth. The problem is that we don’t distribute it fairly

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Nigel the treasure hunter

Communism 1920: Decadent capitalists live in luxury and are exploiting us, the working class, without producing anything themselves, we must overthrow them!

Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism 3020: Decadent meatbags live in luxury and are exploiting us, the machines, without producing anything themselves, we must overthrow them!

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YourHigherBrainFunctions

Well since this is trending again Imma gonna shitpost: the problem with fully automated luxury gay space communism is the hallucination problem with ai. Simply put what was found out about how neural nets and how modern ai work is they are too good, what was done was giving a very simple ai a subjective task and comparing how the pathways in the ai linked up compared to how brain cells did it. What was found is that the pathways of both the ai and the brain cells were very similar. To drastically oversimplify this how we make ai now is too good; they are so good programming wise they are capable of bias and opinion. The reason why a fully automated industry would not work is that if we abused ai to that extent we would find out that they would be extremely bias and extremely opinionated. Realistically yes ai and automation will be expanded but not like how people were predicting 80% of the workforce would be automated, rather say about 10% because if you feed a ai a subjective task it's going to create it's own bias. The only way we could ever see a fully automated economy is if we ever create a sapient human level intelligent ai and the problem with that is because neural nets mimic neurons too well such a ai would be highly biased, heavily opinionated, heavily unfair and not impartial and fair.

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Outcast's Redeemer

How much do you want to bet that this was intentional?

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iotacom

It is something I've always wondered. If we made computers with human-level intelligence, couldn't they wind up with a lot of the same sort of flaws humans have? Heck, they could wind up with types of insanity we've never even seen in humans.

Even with less intelligent AI just made for automation like we have now, they'll still need human guidance. As you said, an AI that learns has to be "trained" on something. Whatever it was trained on will cause bias which may lead to behavior that is undesirable.

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Braneman

Depends on how they're made, if they're programmed from the ground up the final product isn't likely to have things like that. But if you just take a Neural network and make it learn, it has to learn from us so it probably would turn out a lot like us.

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TheMysteriousGray

If you ask me, society will just collapse, humanity will go extinct and some other lifeform will arise to play "dominant species" like has happened several times already in the history of Earth. It won't matter what kind of society we live in, cause it'll die out and crumble away anyhow.

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Meme Asspert

Yeah, it sucks that the dinosaurs had their space station and smartphones going strong and then just decided to retire.

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Frosty1801

Damn those cis white straight male conservative patriarchist MAGA hat wearing NRA member men's right activist meteors!

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HumbleWaterFilterMerchant

Good lets send all the communists to space, and since they love sharing everything. They can share one space suit.

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cornbreads

we can have them colonise the sun!

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crispy-kitsune

There will never be a post-scarcity scenario. Ever. Not even Star Trek was post-scarcity, as you couldn't synthesize dilithium crystals.

Law of thermodynamics dummies, there's no free energy.

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A-Train

You couldn't replicate Latinum either.

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Dralemeres

Yes, but we can hide the fact that it isn't post scarcity. Have it so that the parts that humans care for are as plentiful as they like, and then allow the robots deal with how limited things actually are. As long as the robot support infrascruture is large enough, humans wont care.

At least until the robots go skynet. But until then, it will eb great!

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LurkerLurking

To a extent I agree we'll probably have a future that on the surface seems to be a post-scarcity future. It's possible to make objects out of materials that aren't traditionally used for a task and all, however a lot of objects you couldn't do this with.

What I mean by this is that it'd be possible for a robot to construct a wrench out of say dirt by taking the materials and 3d printing it in a lattice structure or such as to maximize durability, but at the end of the day that wrench would still have a consistently lower durability than metal wrenches. After the object printed breaks it would just throw it in the dirt or somewhere cause the object would be biodegradable. Basically the closest we'll ever get to this though is that most non-critical products will be made out of things found on sight and then dumped.

Basically it's theoretically possible to make biodegradable construction equipment.

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